Reader Question: Mixing Old and New Cabinets

THE BRYANT HOUSE

Well it’s time to answer the final part of Miyuki’s reader question about the Bryant House kitchen: mixing old and new cabinets.

Here’s a quick reminder on what she asked:

“My husband and I own a small home in LA, and looking to remodel our kitchen.  I love what you did on the Bryant house kitchen and I’m wondering if you can tell me about how much it ran you and in general, how do you budget for a kitchen remodel?

“We have a galley kitchen with very poor storage space.  Our cabinets are old, but I think we can salvage some of them so long as we can find a way to make the new ones match the old which is why I like what you did with the Bryant house.  Was it hard to make the cabinets somewhat match each other?

“And using butcher block is exactly what I want to do in ours too (my husband thinks I’m crazy).  Is Maple the standard wood you would go with, or would you suggest other wood qualities to consider?”

I strive to keep as much of the original home in tact as possible when doing a remodel – for both charm and cost reasons.  So whenever there are solid wood floors, a cast iron sink, or great original cabinets, I say keep them.  Of course this can get a little tricky. Old cabinets are usually only 20″ deep (instead of modern 24″ deep cabinets), which is too shallow for a dishwasher.  The countertops are usually placed lower than the current day 36″ standard height and uppers tend to be so close to lowers that you can’t always fit a coffee maker in between.  So let me say it again.  If there are great original cabinets in your kitchen, I say keep them…if they don’t interfere with the goals of your kitchen reno.

The Grit and Polish - Original 1926 Cabinets with New Clamshell Pulls.jpg.jpg

We were able to accomplish this at the Bryant house when we saved the old cabinet bank on the south wall of the kitchen.  These cabinets feel like a built-in hutch and luckily were built without appliances or plumbing, so we were able to keep the original charm without making them work with modern-day dimensions.  And how great is that window sitting smack-dab in the middle, letting in oodles of natural sunlight?!

The Grit and Polish - Bryant House Original Cabinets

The west and north walls of the kitchen, however, were full of flimsy, cheap cabinets from a mid-century remodel with a layout that didn’t work for us – and couldn’t have really worked for anyone, ever.

Original Kitchen Photo

We designed custom cabinets for the ‘L’ shaped kitchen, and removed the wall to the right of the kitchen (see above photo) that separated the dining space from the kitchen, letting in even more natural light into the space.  

The Grit and Polish - White and Bright Kitchen Renovation at the Bryant house.jpg

To integrate the new cabinets with the old, we had a cabinet builder replicate the door and face dimensions of the original cabinets.  To keep the new cabinets from looking too ‘new’, we hand-painted them leaving brush strokes in the finish like those seen on any original cabinets – after all, they didn’t have paint sprayers in 1926.  We also added the same butcher block countertops and hardware to both the new and old cabinets.  I’m pretty happy with the results!  Although the new and old cabinets are noticeably different (perhaps not on your first glance, but definitely on your second), they don’t scream mis-matched.  Plus keeping all those old cabinets kept our renovation costs down, which should always be a kitchen reno goal!

What do you guys think?  Would you ever keep any of the original details during a kitchen renovation?

xoxo

-Cathy

p.s. A bit of whimsy in Nashville.

p.p.s. Mint Milano cookies were a staple of my childhood.  I’m embarrassed to admit that my sister and I could down a bag of those in a evening.  Needless to say I can’t wait to try this homemade version!

p.p.p.s. Check out this cool house tour.

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Reader Question: Kitchen Reno Costs

THE BRYANT HOUSE

I know you guys are going to be really surprised to hear this, but we’re still (STILL!) working on the backyard at the Ravenna House.  The shed is getting close-ish to being done and we’ve started planning a fence.  We’re also still waiting to hear from the lien-holders to find out if we got that mysterious new house I keep hinting at (we’ll call her fixer #4 for now).  So with nothing much by the way of progress to share, I thought it would be a good time to answer a reader question.

I received this question from Miyuki last week:

“My husband and I own a small home in LA, and are looking to remodel our kitchen.  I love what you did on the Bryant house kitchen and I’m wondering if you can tell me about how much it ran you and in general, how do you budget for a kitchen remodel? 

“We have a galley kitchen with very poor storage space.  Our cabinets are old, but I think we can salvage some of them so long as we can find a way to make the new ones match the old which is why I like what you did with the Bryant house.  Was it hard to make the cabinets somewhat match each other?

“And using butcher block is exactly what I want to do in ours too (my husband thinks I’m crazy).  Is Maple the standard wood you would go with, or would you suggest other wood qualities to consider?”

Great question, right?  Since it is such a detailed question, I’m going to split it into three parts and tackle one a day – today we’ll focus on budget.  But first let’s get reacquainted with the Bryant House kitchen reno.

The Grit and Polish - Bryant House White Kitchen Renovaiton.jpg

We completed this renovation in March 2013 when I was 6 months pregnant with Wilder.  It was a gut job besides keeping a wall of existing cabinets.  We added appliances, custom cabinetry, lighting, tile, fresh hardware, and painted everything.  You can read more about it here.  This is the finished product:

The Grit and Polish  Bryant House Kitchen Renovation with Subway Backsplash Floor to Ceiling.jpg
the Grit and Polish - White kitchen renovation with classic hardware.jpgThe Grit and Polish  Original 1926 Cabinets with New Clamshell Pulls.jpgthe Grit and Polish - kitchen renovation with built-in dining nook featuring West Elm lighting.jpg

I’ve said it before, but this kitchen/dining space is one of my favorite rooms that we’ve ever renovated.  It’s so light and bright and just plain happy.  We spent more time in this room than anywhere else at the Bryant House.  And I will always have such sweet memories of  holding 1-day-old Wilder at that table, introducing him to family and friends, as we drank coffee and ate apple cake.

Okay, now let’s get back to the topic at hand.  Money.  Luckily I kept really good records when we remodeled the Bryant House, which unfortunately is not a trend I continued at the Ravenna House.  I’m going to blame it on the birth of Wilder and the strange void which I used to call spare time.  Anyway, the Bryant House kitchen remodel cost us $9,700.  It was a 100% DIY job, so we didn’t pay for any labor.  We did get plenty of help from family, especially my father-in-law who happens to be an electrician and is cool with being paid in beer.  What is family for after all?!

Here’s what the cost breakdown looked like:

Custom Cabinets                $2,266
Appliances                           $2,875
Lighting                                $900
Vintage Table and Hutch  $640
Countertops                         $460
Tile and tool rental             $400
Electrical                               $248
Plumbing & Fixtures          $513
Building materials              $610
Misc (paint, etc)                  $788

Total                                      $9,700

The pair of sliding doors, which we installed ourself, were an additional $1,540.

Of course every renovation is unique and so is the budget.  It depends on your scope, how much work you plan to do yourself, and the level of finish.  Our budget for the Bryant House kitchen probably won’t work in 90% of kitchens.  I’ve read that the average kitchen remodel runs somewhere in the $15k-45k range.  Based on that, an average remodel breakdown would look more like this:

Cabinets                             $10,500
Labor                                  $6,000
Appliances                         $6,000
windows                             $3,000
Fixtures                              $1,500
Fittings                               $900
Other                                  $2,100

Total                                   $30,000

And then add contingency.  I usually use 10-15% of the total budget, but I’d recommend 20% for a novice renovator.  That would equal an additional $6,000, in this scenario.  If you don’t use it, great.  But I find that the unexpected always happens on an old-house remodel and it’s best to be prepared.

Back to Miyuki.  I think a $36,000 budget is a good place to start.  Yes, that’s a ton of money.  But you can subtract from there (or add if need be), based on size of the project, work you plan to do yourself and the how nice of finishes you’re planning.  Obviously we subtracted a lot in labor but didn’t have to scrimp on the finish level much (sure I’d love a pro-range, but we really didn’t need it).  Quality cabinets were really important to me, so we spent the extra money on custom shaker-style cabinets, but saved about 10% by painting them ourselves.  I also think we got a lot of “style mileage” out of the inexpensive white subway tile backsplash, installed floor to ceiling.  Renovations are about compromise, just make sure to keep your goals in tact!

What about you guys?  Any budget advice for Miyuki or feedback on our renovation?  I’d love to hear about it in the comment section below!

xoxo

-Cathy

p.s. “Children’s menus are the death of civilization.” An interesting look into the recent history of kids and food.

p.p.s. Did you guys know the Pioneer Woman renovated a commercial property?  It’s beautiful!

p.p.p.s. Have you guys seen Jersey Ice Cream Co’s renovation work?  I’m obsessed with these guys!

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